Author's Argument in "Dulce Et Decorum Est" by Wilfred Owen

3/12/2015

Now that you have read and analyzed Owen's poem, supplementing your understanding by viewing video clips and discussing, please take a moment to reflect on Owen's argument regarding war. Then answer the following prompts:
1. What is his argument and how does he use his poem to prove his argument? Please be sure to use multiple line references (3+ references) to support your analysis>
2. Once you have thoroughly explained Owen's argument regarding war, please compose a thoughtful response either refuting and supporting his stance.

In your Primary Blog Entry, you should respond to the questions above in a single entry. Your Secondary Blog Entry should respond to two of your colleagues' entries that are especially interesting to you.

Part One Expectations (respond to the prompt above): 200-250 words, 2 quotes from the novel, minimal errors in grammar and usage, thoughtful and thorough writing. Please use the assigned "pen name" given to you in class PLEASE FINISH BY FRIDAY NIGHT!

Part Two Expectations (read everyone's first responses, select two that interest you, and respond to their ideas): 100-150 words EACH, minimal errors in grammar and usage, thoughtful and thorough writing. Please use the assigned "pen name" given to you in class. FINISH BY SUNDAY NIGHT!

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14 Comments

3/13/2015 06:49:08 am

Owens poem title is "Sweet and Fitting" and he stands by the point that he doesn't support the war cause of the lack of humanity and the decency of war isn't pretty, "Behind the wagon we flung him in", Owens explains the brutality of the war "The blood come gargling from froth-corrupted lungs bitter as the cud of vile" . Owen didn't support the war but he fought it.

Though I agree with Owens point of view that war it is not sweet but I believe that it is fitting and I think it is justified in dire circumstances that were talking cannot stop or postpone the war in most cases it is inevitable and is necessary, if war never happened in the places that had the most inhuman living and way of life the world would crumble, war is the way the world and countries police themselves, no doubt other do it for pure evil motives or the hatred for another or the greed, but war is inevitable and cant be stopped. war isn't sweet but its fitting none less.

3/14/2015 04:42:24 pm

I for one agree with this person and I agree with owen war shouldn't be dummy downed it should be spoken for what it is. hell on earth as the soldiers would see it not how people the government would want us to see it. people have a right to know and the government should be able to tell American people the truth. no more empty lie no more telling our kids what we wanted to believe but owen believed that everyone even kids should know the truth we as a people in whole should now the truth. the government doesn't want America to the know the truth they constantly keep secrets from us. he wasn't against war but he was right we should lie about it either it is very real and people should know. men have died in front of him the massive gas thing that whipped out a lot of people should be brought to the surface and not that it was just a sweet war and oh my child died in sweet victory.

3/15/2015 04:36:11 pm

You made a very good on how Owen felt about the kids and also about the government too and I liked it it really supports what he was trying to say.

3/16/2015 06:02:27 am

Owen's doesn't agree with war because they are gruesome and always end up with hundreds of thousands of people dead because they follow a higher powers authority and they often don't understand why they are even doing the things they chose to do. It is often to please a male in the family or even a tradition of the family that a male from each house of the family must enter the war to prove his self as a man.

3/13/2015 06:53:50 am

Wilfred Owens’ argument is that a country that is going to war shouldn’t send younger people to war with the assumption that everything will be ok and that war is a glorious thing because they are fighting for their country. Nothing about war is glorious it’s all a propaganda to get a younger generation to fight for what is a “glorious cause”, but it’s just an early way to go in and come out in a box back. This would upset a parent anywhere in this world to know that there is a very large possibility that they won’t ever see their son come back home and be able to walk through the front door ever again. To a child they may be losing a father to people that only want to kill them and do it with no regrets because they were told or even convinced to do so. “GAS! Gas! Quick, boys!” these to me isn’t anything fun because to have to fumble around with a gas mask and if not used properly they could go blind or die. “… the blood come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs, … “ who would want to send their child away to a place that there is pure hatred and thousands of trench warfare along with no man’s land at every area.

3/15/2015 04:37:23 pm

Your point was clear and straight forward and really understanding of what Owen meant

3/13/2015 07:03:07 am

Owen’s argument is that we shouldn’t glorify war we shouldn’t lie to our children about how war Is so great. He says in his poem “My friend, you would not tell with such high zest to children ardent for some desperate glory, the old lie: Dulce et decorum Est Pro patria mori.” People say war is a great honor to fight in and u should be proud and happy to die. He isn’t saying war isn’t needed because it is very important but not to hype it to a bar standard that we do. In the war people get shot n bombed and they dropped deadly gasses. Gas that filled their longs and killed them in a slow death with their faces start to melt. He saw people drowning and people being shot and men die right in front of him. As their lungs got filled with gases they start to cough up blood and the fear in their eyes as they were dying. The gas was as deadly as cancer and very deadly. Owen watched people die and watch men get hurt and lived through the horror of war. And all he is saying to people don’t lie to kids or people who never fought during the war to tell the truth. The truth might be hard for some to hear and hurtful for some people the truth should be told and not denied or dummy down because people think it will help other people out if they knew that a lie was better. People and children need to know the hard fact before they jump into something that they think is easy, sweet, and a playful joy. It isn’t and someone should tell the truth of the stories.

3/16/2015 05:58:24 am

I agree with you because Owen's argument isn't telling us that we should tell our children to go to war because it is glorious but much in fact because of what really happens. He tells us that we should tell our children about the bloody, hideous, and rage that goes along with war that ever one just wants to kill you and have no regrets about the things that they have done. As long as the enemy has done their job at killing you, they are happy.

Paul Rever

11/15/2015 09:39:34 pm

I agree with this person because that isnexactly what the author was pointing out is that the children should know the dreadful things that goes on in war instead of trying to his it from them.

3/13/2015 07:08:46 am

Owens argument is that people should not glorify war. Owen believes that they make the war more then what it really is, and don’t say all that happens. When you die in war it’s not with pride, but with a lot of pain and suffering. When Owen says “ we cursed through sludge “ he speaks on no man land and how it is responsible for a lot of the war deaths. During a mustard gas attack you can do nothing but watch others die in pain. Trying to save soldiers from the harse attack, they throw the soldiers in the back of the wagon and hope for them to survive.

3/14/2015 02:47:16 pm

3/15/2015 02:02:23 pm

I do agree with this piece it does connect to the poem and this quote does match with the poem

3/15/2015 02:01:00 pm

In the poem Wilfred Owen they argued that kids shouldn't be like two on how the military is, and what they're going to go through because war is not easyin the Palm they talk about disappointment they talk about drunks in the also talk about death.how bittersweet it can be in the "my friend you will not go with such high dust"is talking about how things can be held with pride it is also a very good way to look at this poem.

3/15/2015 04:34:25 pm

In the poem 'Dulce et Decorum est' is where I think Owen behind with the description of the soldiers retreating from the front lines of the battlefield but then goes on talking about the children would be so affected by the war, the way the government has been lying about what has been going on not telling the truth about the war but keeping it to themselves he thought everyone should have known about it because he had seen so many friends and colleagues die of a massive gas attack in front of him, leaving him miserable which makes it really clear when he didn't like what the government did so this poem was a good way for Owen to express what he felt was suppose to be done there.

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